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Jun 10, 2009 6:17 AM
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Such a difficult situation with wide spectrum of emotions. The ending of this chapter killed me mentally. I can't believe

Sorry, I'm not sure if a need to put a spoiler here, but nvm. It was so unfair, the situation could have ended differently if only Gendo would allow it, I can imagine it happening even, but damn.
It was the first time I almost shed a tear reading manga. That was so painful. He did not deserve this. Damn.. damn.. damn.
Jun 10, 2009 6:19 AM
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Yeah lot of tragic death that's all I want !
Dec 7, 2009 8:35 AM
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I found that the manga dose this more shocking than what the anime did.
Mar 29, 2010 8:20 PM
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LiarK said:

It was the first time I almost shed a tear reading manga. That was so painful. He did not deserve this. Damn.. damn.. damn.

I know this was unfair. He didn't do anything at all but at least it was stated that he was dead where the anime just left it. Poor him
Jul 20, 2010 11:46 PM
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LiarK said:
He did not deserve this. Damn.. damn.. damn.


my feelings exactly. i could not believe it
Mar 17, 2013 2:42 PM
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It’s a shame that Toji had to die, but there was really no other solution.
Oct 24, 2013 6:10 PM
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It’s a shame that Toji had to die, but there was really no other solution.

*Hint* Watch the anime.

Seriously thought, damn. Did not expect that. I figured he'd live....

Showing his body and face like that.....disturbing. Can't believe they showed it. Well, now there is no way for Shinji and his dad to reconcile. I'm sure he'll just hate him from here on out. I hate Gendo with a passion. He's such an a**hole.
Jun 14, 2014 1:24 PM
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Showing his body and face like that.....disturbing.


I had the same thought. For a moment I thought that he might be alive, but then I read the part about his pulse....

I found Touji to be one of the best characters in there. As the episodes/chapters went by, I started liking him even more after seeing what lies behind his "tough boy" attitude. I believe that the manga handled this better, because in the anime we learn about the loss of his leg and then we don't see or hear about him again (I don't count Shinji's subconsious)
Sep 8, 2014 11:00 PM
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My god....he died. Toji died. That was not how it played out in the anime. The shot of the tear going down Shinji's face with the look of emptiness. The panel with a shot of Toji's lifeless face.....god damn.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Dec 10, 2014 2:48 AM

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Damn, I totally didn't expect Toji to die in this version. That was truly brutal. I had to look up this discussion just to be certain if he did actually die in the anime version too. This is the first big change to the TV-series that I've spotted.
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Although I hate to admit it but I think what the manga did by killing Touji was better than the anime because it was more realistic and convenient to have him dying and it would be interesting seeing who chinji would react.
Overall great chapter and a nice twist to the manga.
Mar 8, 2016 3:35 AM

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BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

What happened in the anime was different....
Apr 9, 2016 9:58 PM

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BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

What happened in the anime was different....

Toji's death was harrowing, and at least the manga did some sort of justice by effectively killing him rather than leaving him in the cold. All in all I'm not the biggest fan of this volume, mainly because of how convenient all of the setup was. I'm interested to see how Shinji will react to this.
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

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Trequartista said:
BlueKite said:
BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

What happened in the anime was different....

I remember being seriously pissed with the anime with how it dealt with Toji after this. Or should I say it did nothing at all. Cause Toji was never even mentioned again iirc. I thought it was really ridiculous that the anime just managed to get away with it.....

Toji's death was harrowing, and at least the manga did some sort of justice by effectively killing him rather than leaving him in the cold. All in all I'm not the biggest fan of this volume, mainly because of how convenient all of the setup was. I'm interested to see how Shinji will react to this.
This chapter just left me in shock, I had to stop reading for a while and collect my thoughts. It also hit me in the feels when he got selected as the pilot in the previous chapter. Toji started to break down in front of Shinji and regrets picking on him, now that he is in the same shoes as Shinji. I do prefer this outcome over the anime, as it impacts Shinji's character development in a way.
Jul 15, 2016 5:11 PM

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Oh shiet, Touji dies in this version?! Man, totally unexpected, I even had to check what happened to him in anime, because after reading this volume I wasn't sure if I even remembered correctly, geez. Man, the frame with his corpse, where he still has opened eyes... Creepy.

Shinji is now in even more miserable position than he was in the original series. And that last page with cooking Hikari was so sad :(
Sep 29, 2016 7:59 PM

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Poor Shinji, this is gonna leave some mental scars.
May 23, 2017 1:14 AM

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Wow. I didn't honestly expect that to carry as much punch as it did this time around, having seen the anime first, I didn't anticipate reading Shinji's front row seat to horror to almost get me teary-eyed but yeah, it totally did. I'm not even talking about the the death, which was a big thud considering it didn't play out that way initially and I expected the same here but just the shot of Eva holding the plug with Shinji's scream, just brutal. The final pages with Toji pronounced dead followed by Hikari's fantasy, devastating.

I'm a bit conflicted over which version I prefer. As morbid as it sounds, I do prefer Toji dying. It felt it a bit cheap to have him live though I recall liking the brief scene we did get of him and Hikari. The more emotionally devastating version is better. That goes true for the anime on another account though, I spoil tag this just in case,
Aug 26, 2017 1:28 PM

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wOw okay i am in shock, i was not expecting them to go down this route, this actually hurt my heart
Jun 11, 2019 4:02 AM

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"The useless pilot should just sit and be quiet"

Sick burn, dude
Jun 11, 2019 4:06 AM

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Hikari does not even realize what is coming

So far the manga hits harder than the Anime
Aug 17, 2021 9:50 PM
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Damn.... poor Toji.

F*ck Gendo 🖕
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Dec 22, 2021 8:53 AM
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I played Tsubasa no Kudasai from the rebuilds over this and almost cried. My god, was that harrowing. Him dying in this made it hit so much harder. The scene with Hikari waiting for him broke me.
Jan 4, 2022 11:33 AM

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I admit the manga makes this more impactful by actually killing him off like that
Jan 4, 2022 11:37 AM

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The fact that Shinji knew who the pilot was beforehand makes this even more impactful
Sep 18, 2022 9:43 AM

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What a pivot. Sadamoto's direction of the series is remarkably different.
Oct 1, 2024 7:54 AM
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Everyone's surprised that Toji died, but for all intents and purposes, he died in the anime version as well. There is a reason that he's never seen again after his "injury." That's because Anno intended to kill him off. It's just that he wasn't allowed to show a child dying on TV. But since Toji is never seen or mentioned again in the anime, yeah, Anno pretty much considered him dead at this point.
Sep 30, 2025 7:05 PM

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Really sad watching Toji die
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toji is dead now R.I.P

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