Attack on Titan
Thigh_Tide said: Piromysl said: It's been a while since I wanted to share this. Every time I thought I can't be more surpsided and mind-blown, Isayama is here to surprise us. Episode 80 will be titled "From You, 2000 years ago". Episode 1 was titled "To You, in 2000 years". It's hard for me to believe, that it is possible for a mortal to have such a complex story throughly planned and consistent since start to finish. Also, i suggest to check out this video. The attention to subtle details is unbelievable. Ah, another case of "AOT clot gets impressed by one of the most basic facets of writing, that despite its simplicity wasn't even done well." Actually, since you're here, I'm going to call for justification on your "hot take." It's a rather heavy statement, I want to see what led you to it. Thank you for your opinion. |
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Piromysl said: Thigh_Tide said: Ah, another case of "AOT clot gets impressed by one of the most basic facets of writing, that despite its simplicity wasn't even done well." Actually, since you're here, I'm going to call for justification on your "hot take." It's a rather heavy statement, I want to see what led you to it. Thank you for your opinion. "I disagree with this but am too moronic to even attempt to argue the opposite." Come on, get at least a little bit of a spine. It's simply not impressive by any measure, millions of authors are capable of doing the same thing. I remember learning about foreshadowing in English class aged like 9. And I do still want you to try and justify your "hot take." If you're unwilling to, I'll have to conclude you're incapable to, and if you're incapable to, it's fairly obvious it is hyperbole. Which rather sheds light on how misinformed of an opinion it is. See, I've read your recommendation comparing it to SAO, and you're just clearly barking up the wrong tree - we explicitly see how Hibiki isn't the best at everything, not even close to, and she needs lots of physical training and experience as well as psychologically readying both herself and her relationships with everyone else. And it's completely a lie to say all character development is finished early on, since both throughout the second half of the show and all subsequent seasons does she have multiple arcs worth of growth, revelations and shifting convictions. And then the rest is just blank assertions of "lazy" and "failing" with no support. So, go on, I want to know how you got to such a view. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| It's actually a pretty common writing technique but a lot of writers don't do it. And that is writing a story from the ending first. Like the writer's goal is to reach the ending they themselves created before the story even began, and the process is writing how to get there. I think Death Note is a pretty obvious one as well as Code Geass. Some stories are obviously better to start from the characters, and the writer will organically develop the plot as the character evolves. But it's pretty clear that the writer here started his idea of a story from forming the ending first. |
Piromysl said: Thigh_Tide said: Ah, another case of "AOT clot gets impressed by one of the most basic facets of writing, that despite its simplicity wasn't even done well." Actually, since you're here, I'm going to call for justification on your "hot take." It's a rather heavy statement, I want to see what led you to it. Thank you for your opinion. Two weeks, and still no attempt at explaining your view. I'll take that as confirmation it's as baseless as I pointed out earlier. It's interesting, though, that you appear to since have had another conversation about the subject, in which you again claim she lacks development - which I already pointed out was completely untrue - followed by making completely baffling claims that she's "a sociopath" and "only cares about herself" and the like, claims that are so illogical and arbitrary I'm half convinced you're making them up on the spot, in complete deference to the content of the actual show. It is made overtly obvious that she is in fact the exact opposite of what you describe, just observe any scene presenting her relationships or motivations. And as a side point, what definition of Mary Sure do you use, and what specifically do you think is the "villainous" act she did, that was in conflict with earlier setup? |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
O_T_T said: Two weeks, and still no attempt at explaining your view. I'll take that as confirmation it's as baseless as I pointed out earlier. It's interesting, though, that you appear to since have had another conversation about the subject, in which you again claim she lacks development - which I already pointed out was completely untrue - followed by making completely baffling claims that she's "a sociopath" and "only cares about herself" and the like, claims that are so illogical and arbitrary I'm half convinced you're making them up on the spot, in complete deference to the content of the actual show. It is made overtly obvious that she is in fact the exact opposite of what you describe, just observe any scene presenting her relationships or motivations. And as a side point, what definition of Mary Sure do you use, and what specifically do you think is the "villainous" act she did, that was in conflict with earlier setup? No, you will not receive an explanation, because I don't want to bother with debating someone exceptionally toxic. Just looking how you went so emotional over this Blonde Bimbo being called out for what she is tells me more than I need. I would gladly explain it to you, but I'm not really interested in rabid bickering. Stay confused. Bye. |
PiromyslFeb 15, 2022 4:33 AM
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| I always find it hilarious when people compare this true foreshadowing to the silly-ass callbacks from soap operas like One Piece. Like, dude, yes they mentioned that scene from three hundred chapters back but there's nothing hidden in the older scenes and the context does not even change. The thing about subtlety is: you can only hide it once. If you can't pin-point in hindsight what the foreshadowing is then it really isn't subtle, it's nonexistent. |
| End Zionazism |
Piromysl said: No, you will not receive an explanation, because I don't want to bother with debating someone exceptionally toxic. Pathetic Ad Hominem. That you're trying to weasel your way out of standing behind your opinion is further evidence that it's baseless. You can try and pretend I'm "toxic," but that'd be futile, since it doesn't remove the burden of proof. Just looking how you went so emotional over this Blonde Bimbo being called out for what she is tells me more than I need. I told you precisely why you were wrong, so yes, it should tell you what you need in order to fix your laughable attempt at media comprehension. Additionally, claiming I'm "emotional" is yet another example of you ignoring what's actually the case in favour of your own random fantasies, precisely what you seem to be doing with the show, and at any rate another Ad Hominem. See above, you still need to justify your view for it to be valid. Which leads nicely into my additional additional point, claiming that your claims are "exactly what she is" without demonstrating this, as you are required to, is Begging the Question. That's 3 fallacies you're on now. I would gladly explain it to you, but I'm not really interested in rabid bickering. Go on then, if you're so glad to do it. Of course, you've only said so to try and save face, with no intent of actually doing so, and you'll immediately instead try another excuse for why you don't need to. Prove that foresight wrong. Stay confused. Bye. Once more, trying to avoid demonstrating your "take" is anything more than petulant nonsense. Being evasive like this confirms your opinion comes from absolutely nowhere, and since Quod Gratis Asseritur, Gratis Negatur, that makes your claim bullshit. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
we do a little trolling |
    Slave, Thou hast slain meVillain, take my purse If I ever bury my body The letters which though find'st about me To Edmund Earl of Gloucester Seek him out upon the British Party O untimely death, I know thee well A serviceable villain, as duteous to the vices of thy mistress As badness would desire What, is is he dead? Sit you down, rest well. |
| the god spelled backward in fumbling arc |
 User-based score rating isn't the best, better look for users with good sense and rating as a reference |
Reply to O_T_T
Piromysl said:
No, you will not receive an explanation, because I don't want to bother with debating someone exceptionally toxic.
No, you will not receive an explanation, because I don't want to bother with debating someone exceptionally toxic.
Pathetic Ad Hominem. That you're trying to weasel your way out of standing behind your opinion is further evidence that it's baseless. You can try and pretend I'm "toxic," but that'd be futile, since it doesn't remove the burden of proof.
Just looking how you went so emotional over this Blonde Bimbo being called out for what she is tells me more than I need.
I told you precisely why you were wrong, so yes, it should tell you what you need in order to fix your laughable attempt at media comprehension.
Additionally, claiming I'm "emotional" is yet another example of you ignoring what's actually the case in favour of your own random fantasies, precisely what you seem to be doing with the show, and at any rate another Ad Hominem. See above, you still need to justify your view for it to be valid.
Which leads nicely into my additional additional point, claiming that your claims are "exactly what she is" without demonstrating this, as you are required to, is Begging the Question. That's 3 fallacies you're on now.
I would gladly explain it to you, but I'm not really interested in rabid bickering.
Go on then, if you're so glad to do it.
Of course, you've only said so to try and save face, with no intent of actually doing so, and you'll immediately instead try another excuse for why you don't need to. Prove that foresight wrong.
Stay confused. Bye.
Once more, trying to avoid demonstrating your "take" is anything more than petulant nonsense. Being evasive like this confirms your opinion comes from absolutely nowhere, and since Quod Gratis Asseritur, Gratis Negatur, that makes your claim bullshit.
| @O_T_T Just to be clear, I find it very funny to see how you think you are entitled to anything. Other people kindly asked first and then guess what? They got an answer. But since you act as an insufferable fanboy, don't expect me to waste time with you, which is NOT an ad hominem. And I don't feel like going off topic. |
PiromyslSep 5, 2024 10:54 AM
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| it is definitely the greatest anime ever presented from virtually all aspects, maybe not the greatest manga because there is stuff like steel ball run, but on the anime side it is the absolute masterpiece |
Reply to Gengenpresser
He has a great vision but...He kinda failed to land the series perfectly.
@Gengenpresser "kinda failed to land the series" is like saying "just a bit outside" on this pitch lmao |
Reply to HagePotPotato
"Isayama is a literal God of storytelling."
This makes sense, seeing as "God" doesn't exist.
This makes sense, seeing as "God" doesn't exist.
@HagePotPotato ................. |
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